Date: 01/25/07
From: Paul Boniol ()
Date: 01/25/07
Howard White wrote:
> Paul Boniol wrote:
>> Long story short, things have changed at work and I can finally use
>> Linux for more of my work.
>>
>> The problem, some programs on a mini we use are written specifically
>> for HP terminals (or Esprit). I found an ncurses package that
>> installed extra HP term types (ncurses-extraterms), including one term
>> type that sounds perfect (same emulation I use on Windows).
>>
>> I've tried (bash)
>> export TERM=hp70092
>> tset hp70092
>> telnet host.name
>>
>> Either this isn't all I need to do to tell telnet to use the term type
>> or the term type doesn't even supporting cursor positioning... I
>> tried other term types that should work too, with the same result. Am
>> I missing something?
>>
>> Any other programs that you would recommend that support such term
>> types? (screen mentioned earlier specifically states it's a VT100
>> emulator, so I didn't look at it more closely. gnmome-telnet allows
>> you to select from a few term types, hpterm sounds promising but
>> produces the same to worse results.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul
>
> You poor soul, trying to emulate HP 700/92 terminals. Sorry Tilghman, I
> also worked on a HP 3000 for five years. In the DOS/Windows
> environment, there was always the Reflections series of terminal emulators.
>
> All that said, I would suggest looking for a HP shop that had both MPE
> and HP-UX and see if anyone has a term type for connecting from HP-UX
> into MPE. Sorry, I left that environment in 1995 and haven't looked back.
>
> Are you at liberties to discuss your shop's plan for replacing the now
> unsupported MPE systems??
>
> Howard White
I just started investigating running Reflection under Wine last night.
I only have versions 11 and 12 at work. 12 finished installing, but the
installer didn't look right (it had options for IBM and X, which are not
in the version I was installing). It didn't leave the correct binaries
either... Copying the binaries from Windows said it wasn't installed
correctly. I know I have old versions somewhere on floppy/CD/zip disk
somewhere. I have hopes that it might work.
If the OS were the latest, I think we would have until somewhere in 2008
before HP dropped support. However, it's not. I think they have a
support contract with a third party now.
Things are moving from the 3000 to other systems. I believe one of the
earlier plans was to have everything major off by summer 2006 (if not
earlier). Nothing has production off the system yet, partly because
most major systems are interdependent.
The first two major systems are going to an HP 9000 (earlier plans were
for Linux, but they changed their minds after working on it for a
while). The data is going from KSAM (indexed flat files) to Oracle. I
think they are trying to rewrite the IO routines and leave the programs
largely unchanged. Last I heard, they are trying to rewrite Cognos
things (QUICK, QUIZ, and QTP) into something else. They were going to
buy equivalents, but at some point decided to rewrite instead.
I've heard some unbelievable stories through the grape vine, like the
original consultants, who had experience in migrating people from MPE to
either Linux or HPUX had not encountered anyone using command line sort
before. Also something about not knowing how to deal with data stored
in individual bits.
We (housing, Ken Kirby and I) are rewriting our systems. They are going
to an ITS managed box, ColdFusion and SQL Server, an extension of the
web applications that we have developed for the past several years. We
are hoping to have the central part of our systems completed this
summer. It is a bit more difficult as we are trying to anticipate what
The Commons may desire in a housing system. (
http://www.vanderbilt.edu/thecommons/ )
Paul
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